Debra Shaffer-Kugel, right, executive director of the Nevada Board of Dental Examiners, listens as general counsel Melanie Bernstein Chapman speaks during a board meeting on Friday, Jan. 17, 2020, in Las Vegas. Shaffer-Kugel and Chapman were terminated during the meeting. (Bizuayehu Tesfaye/Las Vegas Review-Journal) @bizutesfaye